What Makes You Mention-Worthy? Winning Search Visibility in an AI-First World

AI-driven search is changing the rules of SEO. With large language models (LLMs) reshaping how people discover brands, showing up in AI-generated answers is the new visibility game. In this episode of Performance SEO Unpacked, host Ruchi Pardal sits down with Derek Woo, Director of Search Engine Optimization and App Store Optimization at Albertsons Companies, to unpack how brands can earn mentions, shape influence, and stay competitive in an AI-first world.

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Time Topic

00:00

Introduction to Performance SEO Unpacked

00:45

Meet Derek Woo, SEO & ASO Director at Albertsons

01:20

How AI is transforming search visibility

02:00

Early experiments with ChatGPT and AI search

03:30

Building weekly AI workshops at Albertsons

05:47

Case study: Albertsons in AI results for bleach alternatives

06:27

Why unique content wins and syndicated pages fail

09:44

Always ask “What’s the next question?

15:16

Natural Search Optimization vs traditional SEO

17:18

Why FAQs and long-form content still matter

19:18

Mentions and impressions as new success metrics

23:23

SEO isn’t dead, it’s evolving with AI

25:00

The future of ads and SEO in an AI-first world

31:34

Using AI focus groups for consumer insights

41:14

Ignoring backlinks and focusing on content quality

44:59

Final takeaway: Optimization always matters

46:34

Closing thoughts and wrap-up

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“Winning in an AI-first world isn’t about chasing backlinks—it’s about being mention-worthy. If you’re not part of the answer, you’re invisible.” — Derek Woo, Director of SEO & ASO, Albertsons Companies

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN

Get an inside look at how one of the largest retail brands is adapting to AI-first search:

Why anticipating “the next question” is key to showing up in LLM-generated answers
How brand affinity is shaped by appearing in AI responses for high-volume, non-branded queries
Why syndicated content falls flat in AI search and how unique, detailed content can make brands stand out
The new metrics that matter: impressions and mentions over clicks
How to leverage AI-powered virtual focus groups to gain instant consumer insights
Why Derek’s team is ignoring backlinks and still winning visibility

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